Let me know, I will delete you too.

Sick of it. Sick of being talked down to or belittled on my fucking forum.

So post who you are, and i will gladly delete you, i don't care if i kill this forum to no users status.

i dont think people think your lame. people just get tired of listening to people cry about shit. sure your the same way. yea its your forum. the whole place is based around you. but dude some people are gonna just tell you how they see shit. i would think u would respect someone more for giving you there opinion (even if its them saying your acting or talking some shit) instead of sucking up to ya or just agree with you about something to be on your "good side"

i just got back on here so i dont know what all the drama is so im sorta just piecing together what i have seen so maybe i am totally wrong. but i think it would suck if ya delete people off here just couse shit is bad at the moment or some shit. lots of cool people on here.

hope i dont get deleted for saying all this shit. but whatever i gonna always say what i think.

just laugh at the shit dont let it get to ya.

?? who says that? you have too much interest about what people think about you, apparently.. it's about top sad songs list? oh, come on, man.. we have different tastes about it ,different point of view but it's nothing at all. don't waste your time for it. you know who you are and nothing to prove , right?

YOU ARE LAME. LAAAAME.





Nah. Might have opinions I don't necessarily see eye to eye on sometimes, but you're cool.

No some people are just lame and disrespectful.

I don't want people like that near me, i would not listen to it in person, and I wont listen to it on the internet.

Looks like it. Shoot, I don't think I have anyway to get onto contact with her outside the forum.

nah, not lame. at times rough around the edges i can admit. personally i'm mutable, so you can say whatever you want, as long as you have a legit reason to yell at me do so, no issue. besides you are master here, we must show you respect. hell its like you inviting us over, so we should be courteous. nothing wrong with debates though.

Yup I can be a prick, I try hard not to personally attack people. But when people personally attack me, call me names and talk down me unless they say sorry and don't do it again, I seriously say bye bye,

This is pretty ridiculous.

If only people could see what happens behind the scenes. I don't think you're lame, I just think you're a self-involved overly emotional person who doesn't want to take other people's opinions or perspectives on anything.

I sent you a respectful PM saying I wasn't meaning to be arrogant and do I get a reply back? Nope. I was apologizing to you and being as respectful as possible, but the only communication i see from you is a threat to ban me because I bring up a topic you don't like. Yet I was very clear I wasn't aiming to patronize you, unfortunately a differing opinion is all someone needs to seem "arrogant" to you.

Respect goes BOTH WAYS!

You encourage "yesmen" and people to baby you because you've sold some albums and if that's the environment you want around here, then have at it. But I have a little more self respect than to blindly agree with anything you say without giving my own piece of mind.

You feel disrespected or patronized because you're insecure. Bottom line.

You want to delete me because I have some differing opinions? Go for it. I've tried apologizing and being respectful to you behind the scenes MULTIPLE times but you never reply or give me the time of day until I say something that rubs you the wrong way.
Then I'm threatened with a ban or the topic is locked because poor little Bryan can't handle a topic he doesn't like.

That's what a forum is. It's about exchanging perspectives and discussing topics with people to hear different sides.
Not to expect ass kissers and dick suckers on every topic you post, and people to baby and pamper your constant negativity and whiny attitude on here.

If this is my last communication to this community then let me say this:
Everyone I've exchanged communication with here has been very respectful and very cool. You're all interesting people and I wish we could've exchanged IMs or gotten to know each other more. I enjoyed this community for many reasons and one of them was obviously because I respected Bryan's work.

Um you want to be deleted too?

Pm? yeah i read it, and accepted it. But its not because I am insecure, i don't want to fight, what happens is i stop myself from attacking you. I really could care less how many friends I have and what most people think. More than anything i don't want my precious brain matter being taken up by stupid people and their stupid shit.

Pen was a cunt to me on FB, comes here and acts like nothing happens, leaves all kinds of snide comments, like kaspel is too goth for her. Posts something negative on every post i make.

I got sick of it.

Sole control, you just acted like you know me and know whats wrong with me, you don't know the half of me in reality. I took offense to that. You acted cool about it in the end so i have no problem with you now.

WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, IS THAT IN REAL LIFE I AM ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PEOPLE YOU WILL EVER MEET TO GET ALONG WITH, I AM A NAZI IN SOME WAYS, VERY SHORT, INTOLERANT AND GET ANNOYED VERY EASILY. I HATE MOST PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR HAIR LOOKS LIKE, OR WHAT MUSIC YOU LIKE. I AM NOT THAT PERSONABLE. MY MUSIC IS PURE EVIDENCE OF THIS, AND THOSE TO CLUELESS TO FIGURE THAT OUT, JUMP ON AND ACT LIKE MY BEST FRIEND AND PSYCHOANALYZE ME, I WILL GET SERIOUSLY PISSED. OR IF YOU SNIPE AT ME IN EVERY THREAD I START, I WILL DELETE YOU.

Seriously.

I do not make everyone kiss my ass, but when you troll and act like a fucking cock, i will delete you and i will not like you and i will not waste my time fighting, i will just remove you. that is what i do. The reason this forum has stayed nice over the years is because of how i run it, most forums turn into huge flame pots and everyone quits being angry and then no one posts anymore. I just remove the trolls and control the fighting, it made the forum stick around longer than any other industrial music band forum out there.

You admit to being a hard person to know and you're basically admitting you're a prick.

So why do you expect people to treat you any differently?

I may have seemed presumptuous from what I was saying in my post, which you deleted, but you practically ADMIT to the same shit that I mentioned.

You avoid people. You admit it. I was just suggesting that you make an effort to stop that.

You realize it's POSSIBLE to change. You've done it already, you used to have a big drug problem yes? That's a huge change.

What's wrong with admitting that certain personality traits you possess are worth changing too? That they may be worth working on?

To me, what's arrogant is to ignore the fact that we're imperfect and that we can't change or shouldn't change.

Not to burst your bubble either but none of us are as complex as we'd like to think. Which is where insight comes into play for people who read other people very well. Perhaps the reason I presumed to know a bit more about you than you'd like isn't because I'm an arrogant asshole, but it's because I can EMPATHIZE with you, as many people probably can.

We're all human, after all.

I never had a drug problem. I quit and could quit at any time. Not something I even struggled with. I quit cold turkey, quit smoking, quit drinking, everything. there was no problem. I had some really bad trips and drug experiences. NOT A DRUG PROBLEM! I never had to go to rehab, I never stole for drug money, I was never addicted to anything other than cigarettes. LOL

You were talking down to me like I was some inferior child. That is why I got angry, it was patronizing. I would never put up with that in person, I would tell you to fuck off and if you didn't get out of my face i would probably leave, if you followed me, i might punch you. You are still doing it dude. STOP!

You don't know shit about me personally, you know the press info, the blog entries that are character and band driven, not personal behind the scene truths. I am short because I know life is precious, time is precious, the space in my brain and life experiences is limited and I do not want to waste it on stupid shit, stupid people, and things that do not inspire me. Capeesh?


I don't need to change? I need to get my lp done, focus on the things in life i like, and help the people who help me. this is what i try to do with my life. Not argue with a person who doesn't respect me, or listen to people who have not accomplished what i have or work in the field that i do try and give me life advice. I find it hilarious. If you want to help me, post something cool and inspiring, tell me something I don't know. Do not talk down to me like some high school counselor. That will make me dislike you faster than you know.

Adding pointless replies, things with no insight, and opinions as dull of petrified feces, wow i could care less. I don't mind critisism when it is done intelligently and really explains it on a taste level instead of blanket statements that just irritate me.

You seem to think everyone is "stupid people".

Not sure who's the arrogant one here.

I don't know why you get some impression that I'm talking down to you like a child, it's not my intentions. So what I've read is completely lies and nothing is worth gauging who you really are?

So is what you're saying now, lies too? Do you actually really "love" everyone?

I'm not judging you or presuming anything I'm reacting mostly off of what you portray here. Whether or not that is an act is your problem, not mine. Because it's the image you're putting out here to your closest fans.
If the image you want your closest fans to see is a hateful and negative person who doesn't want to give anyone the "Time of day", then ok! Go for it. But be prepared for someone to judge you based on that attitude.

When all is said and done nothing really matters anyway. When was the last time you ever took anyone's advice on anything in your life anyway?

So i probably shouldn't fucking bother. Make some good music again, that's why we're all here anyway.



Is that why Penetralia is banned?

I could have a dialogue about the things you bring up, i avoid people, and all the things you state. I have great reasons for how i operate. I have had to endure peoples bullshit, their fake crap, their knives in my fucking back over and over. I find it easier to just love my gf and and talk on forums with like minded people.

Not hang out with antagonizing people etc.

Are most people stupid? I don't think your stupid. But when have you ever had a 1 on one with me and learned me inside and out to give blanket advice as you have. Are most people stupid, yes. Are most of the people on this forum stupid, not from what I can tell honestly. Its why I'm pretty cool to most of the people here except when they start pissing me off, you can have a difference of opinion. If you articulate it and don't get nasty about it. That is fine. Plenty of people on here do that.

Pen is banned because of all of things on fb and here. And her friend digsac, i don't care for them. They seem to think I am lame for being cranky and goth sometimes. I'm supposed to blow sunshine out of my ass all the time or i am a lame debbie downer that needs to be made fun of.

It doesn't matter she wanted to leave. She even posted a goodbye message saying she was leaving, so i just deleted her. It was not out of the blue btw.

Hard to have a "1 on 1" dialogue with someone who ignores you. I've attempted that a few times, inviting you to exchange IMs or messengers, so it's not like it's a lack of my effort.

If you think by talking with me personally you'll open my eyes to some unseen perspective and side of you, then I'm all ears. However, you've never really demonstrated much interest in that before.

You want someone to know you more, then you should give them the chance to, not push them away. The only impression they have is the attitude you put out there. We've all got history. We've all got demons. But no one really gives a fuck about my demons if I jump on their case right off the bat, and never let them in.

Edit:
As far as Penn is concerned I was actually unaware of her "final moments" here, so I was kinda curious more or less. It sounded like it was an artistic difference of opinions, but obviously annoying you through FB is a bit much.
Also - It sucks you deleted her because now I have no way of reading her goodbye post