Lots of digital filters blow, the diva filters are ok, but still not like Plugiator or creamware abs.
The reason this thing sounds so good is that all the sound generation is done at 176khz so there is no loss of sounds due to the nyquist filter. What happens in most digital synths is that the high frequencies get chopped off and fed back in as noise underneath the sound when it hits certain frequencies that are above the nyquest filter, the higher the khz the higher the nyquist filter is and the more high frequencies get through. This really effects resonance and sounds when they are played high on the keyboard.
This is what has been killing me about all VAs since the beginning. Finally with solaris and this creamware stuff i hear VA that doesn't suck at leads and resonance. Go figure. I have ran my daw at 96khz, it does open up the top end of the sound just a smidge, but man 176khz it opens up all the way. You can hear it. Most people do not know this technical stuff. I could never run at high khz when recording because i don't have the hard drive space or the cpu horsepower to pull it off with vsts running. I cant upgrade my pc because the new mother boards wont work with my sound card.
^ I raw across this and it all makes sense now why when the speed of a digital increases like when you pay it up the keybaord, there is more samples that need to happen. This is where you run into the trouble. Not to mention the whole digital floatingpoint division errors that cause data loss. I do believe in digital. Solaris and creamware have renewed my faith in digital. Still for the beef down low, nothing will beat the minitar.
What I notice with the high end digtal stuff like this, when you do fm and get those radio fm fx it sounds like the all the high frequencies are there ,like i used to do on the pro one and micromoog. It sounds correct. Filter sweeps sound juicy too. This is notthe case with arturia and most of the vsts even when i run them at 96khz.
So lets talk about how to get digital to cheat the nyquist and get those high frequencies back that are lost when playing a digital synth up high. Seems like nords do this too.
Jp8080, virus, nord 1 and 2, prophecy, nova, I have owned these and they all alias really bad up high. Nords less so but still do. Is oversampling they key, seems like in the creamware this is what is being done and the results are stunning when you play the keyboard up high. No other VA that sounds good does this. I know the radias supposedly does not alias, but man i hated its pinched bassless sound. This leads to dull sound when played up high.
These errors occur during sound creation at lower frequencies because of nyquist. For example:
Analog synths sound pure and dont alias and lose tone when played up high because there is no limit like there is with nyquist so when doing osc sync the hi freqs and math that goes above nyquist never happens and then you get a great sound and you can capture this sound at 44khz no prb and it will sound good. The same thing applies to digital when you run at 176, you can generate the sounds and nyquist wont ruin them. This is why and it works. I think this is why the plugiator, and creamware abs and solaris dont suck when you play them up high. I would love for don solaris or another tech to chime in here. This will help sell his product.
At a certain point when playing up the keyboard, you run out of math, you need more math to make those tones, thus increasing the bandwidth and raising the nyquist filter will get you a pure digital non aliased tone.
I am talking specificaly why keys above a3 start either sounding thin, or un musical, why sync sounds dull or vibrant, and resonance soudning dull or wet and juicy.
And yeah crap code is crap code. Still I am being general about all
digital synths more than daw mixes. And I do understand why.
I love my virus, until i play it past A3, I love the jp8080 until i play it past a3, i like a lot of software synths until i play it past a3. The radias too, past a3 the sound gets super thin, no aliasing though, the tone is not there.
So Playing synths past a3, and filter resonance, and sync sounds and fm sounds, i prefer on stuff like plugiator. It sounds right. Its not as fat as analog, but plays well past a3 on the keyboard.
What I want is an VA or digital synth that doesn't sound like crap past A3. That the filter sounds analog when it self oscillates. This is what I want.
^ this is how I wish the voyager sounded, bright, cutting, vibrant. This is how i wanted vsts and my VAs to sound. They all clearly do not, the voayger is dark cause the filter wont open up all the way. VAs lose hi frequencies above the nyquist filter. So shimmery alive cutting sounds do not happen with most vst and the new moogs. This demo above is the Minimax Creamware. It sounds way more like a minimoog D than arturia, minimonsta and the voyager.
Sure old jupiter 8s, prophets 5s and the like do what I want, but I cannot afford them. And the software so far fails to capture what I like about those instruments. Here is a good example of what I am talking about as well.
^^^^^^ This clearly shows what I am talking about, how the REAL SEM has this bright magic to the sound when you play it up high. When the Arturia crap does it, it sounds dull and lifeless and not nearly as vibrant.
Chime in on your thoughts on this. What synths do you have that do not alias?