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	<title>Comments on: Midi woes. Computers Suck with hardware. A grim Tale.</title>
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		<title>By: os</title>
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		<dc:creator>os</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at this:
http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/es4.html

Tight MIDI (not just MIDI clock, a la Innerclock) is now a reality.

See also
http://vimeo.com/26444600
http://vimeo.com/30913010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this:<br />
<a href="http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/es4.html" rel="nofollow">http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/es4.html</a></p>
<p>Tight MIDI (not just MIDI clock, a la Innerclock) is now a reality.</p>
<p>See also<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/26444600" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/26444600</a><br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/30913010" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/30913010</a></p>
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		<title>By: survivor030406</title>
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		<dc:creator>survivor030406</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Midi Solutions Qudra Thru?
You could run Atari ST midi - Quadra Thru in- 4 midi outs - drum machine/sampler/synth1/synth2.
drum machine channel 1/sampler channel 2-3-4/synth1 channel 5-6-7-8/synth2 channel 9-10-11-12, and set each receiving device to ignore channels that are used by other devices.
This setup should be really tight because the data is not reconstructed for each device like you would get by chaining them.
This is assuming that you are not needing to write 64 tracks.
I know a lot of PC midi interfaces suck, bad latency, jitter.  Before I stumbled on your page here, I was just looking at MidiTest ans some people contributed their results, and it looks like some interfaces might be worth a try. Some of the results show latency and jitter well below 1ms!  Look here:
http://earthvegaconnection.com/evc/products/miditest/results.html 
Let me know if any of this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Midi Solutions Qudra Thru?<br />
You could run Atari ST midi &#8211; Quadra Thru in- 4 midi outs &#8211; drum machine/sampler/synth1/synth2.<br />
drum machine channel 1/sampler channel 2-3-4/synth1 channel 5-6-7-8/synth2 channel 9-10-11-12, and set each receiving device to ignore channels that are used by other devices.<br />
This setup should be really tight because the data is not reconstructed for each device like you would get by chaining them.<br />
This is assuming that you are not needing to write 64 tracks.<br />
I know a lot of PC midi interfaces suck, bad latency, jitter.  Before I stumbled on your page here, I was just looking at MidiTest ans some people contributed their results, and it looks like some interfaces might be worth a try. Some of the results show latency and jitter well below 1ms!  Look here:<br />
<a href="http://earthvegaconnection.com/evc/products/miditest/results.html" rel="nofollow">http://earthvegaconnection.com/evc/products/miditest/results.html</a><br />
Let me know if any of this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try a 16 bit  sequencer in win 3.1,win95 or 98. i use sweet sixteen in 98se,with an old ISA MPU-401 compatible.as tight as anything i have used,bar none(or nun ha ha) get hold of 98 lite if you can,to strip down the installation,16 bit sequencers use &#039;unthunked&#039; dos layer which is great, and british.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try a 16 bit  sequencer in win 3.1,win95 or 98. i use sweet sixteen in 98se,with an old ISA MPU-401 compatible.as tight as anything i have used,bar none(or nun ha ha) get hold of 98 lite if you can,to strip down the installation,16 bit sequencers use &#8216;unthunked&#8217; dos layer which is great, and british.</p>
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		<title>By: carsonduke</title>
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		<dc:creator>carsonduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, this is probably the best VAC I have heard in a while  I love your new approach to sequencing.  I myself am going back down this trail again.  I just picked up a FutureRetro Revolution R2, a Prophet T8, and I am currently looking at some Jomox or Elektron drum machines.  I may take the ASQ10 in to consideration.  You and I spoke a bout convertors a while ago, thanks for your insight.  this is a very valuable website.  
Carson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, this is probably the best VAC I have heard in a while  I love your new approach to sequencing.  I myself am going back down this trail again.  I just picked up a FutureRetro Revolution R2, a Prophet T8, and I am currently looking at some Jomox or Elektron drum machines.  I may take the ASQ10 in to consideration.  You and I spoke a bout convertors a while ago, thanks for your insight.  this is a very valuable website.<br />
Carson</p>
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		<title>By: saulot</title>
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		<dc:creator>saulot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t like floppies in ST then there is something like this: http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like floppies in ST then there is something like this: <a href="http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: saulot</title>
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		<dc:creator>saulot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, i don&#039;t believe that ataris are so hard to find in your area. Check out ebay. If you&#039;re seeking hard drive for st, there is two SD card reader(hot swappable): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UltraSatan-SD-card-reader-for-Atari-ST-TT_W0QQitemZ250587686364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_VintageComputing_RL?hash=item3a5830a5dc
But if you want to get one then better be quick, because once sold out none of them will be ever produced. SD cards can be dual formatted for atari/pc and read on both systems. I&#039;ve got one already and it&#039;s best hd replacement to date.
If you are seeking atari stuff check out atari.org and www.dhs.nu buy/sell/swap sections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, i don&#8217;t believe that ataris are so hard to find in your area. Check out ebay. If you&#8217;re seeking hard drive for st, there is two SD card reader(hot swappable): <a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UltraSatan-SD-card-reader-for-Atari-ST-TT_W0QQitemZ250587686364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_VintageComputing_RL?hash=item3a5830a5dc" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UltraSatan-SD-card-reader-for-Atari-ST-TT_W0QQitemZ250587686364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_VintageComputing_RL?hash=item3a5830a5dc</a><br />
But if you want to get one then better be quick, because once sold out none of them will be ever produced. SD cards can be dual formatted for atari/pc and read on both systems. I&#8217;ve got one already and it&#8217;s best hd replacement to date.<br />
If you are seeking atari stuff check out atari.org and <a href="http://www.dhs.nu" rel="nofollow">http://www.dhs.nu</a> buy/sell/swap sections.</p>
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		<title>By: juno6</title>
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		<dc:creator>juno6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DB: zubibaja at yahoo dot com dot ar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DB: zubibaja at yahoo dot com dot ar</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>juno6, how can I get hold of you? I also use SPGGold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>juno6, how can I get hold of you? I also use SPGGold.</p>
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		<title>By: Hexfix93</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hexfix93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With win 95, you had to put the color mode to 256 colors, you had to disable everything in the os you could, and tune the system for cubase, and with my motu micro express via the printer port, i was able to get decent midi timing, it would record my midi ok as well, it was not as good as the atari though.

The asq10 that i have now used for 2 days is proving to be the end all be all, it lacks in visual editing, but man is it magical, its tight, but it swings in this way that i have never heard a seq swing, so for dance and head bopping beats, nothing touches this, nothing, i cannot recommend it enough, mpc 60 or asq10. this is bad ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With win 95, you had to put the color mode to 256 colors, you had to disable everything in the os you could, and tune the system for cubase, and with my motu micro express via the printer port, i was able to get decent midi timing, it would record my midi ok as well, it was not as good as the atari though.</p>
<p>The asq10 that i have now used for 2 days is proving to be the end all be all, it lacks in visual editing, but man is it magical, its tight, but it swings in this way that i have never heard a seq swing, so for dance and head bopping beats, nothing touches this, nothing, i cannot recommend it enough, mpc 60 or asq10. this is bad ass.</p>
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		<title>By: juno6</title>
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		<dc:creator>juno6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´d like to know your conclutions about Win3.1 or 95 timming, I remember it being really bad, even though I was a kid and didn´t paid too much attention to those things, but at that time it really annoyed me and so I stayed on dos. 
You can use SPG with any mpu or sound blaster  compatible midi interface (maybe included as a joystick port on your new laptop), so you can try it with that and it you like it you can buy a better midi interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I´d like to know your conclutions about Win3.1 or 95 timming, I remember it being really bad, even though I was a kid and didn´t paid too much attention to those things, but at that time it really annoyed me and so I stayed on dos.<br />
You can use SPG with any mpu or sound blaster  compatible midi interface (maybe included as a joystick port on your new laptop), so you can try it with that and it you like it you can buy a better midi interface.</p>
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