Synth: Virus TI SNOW. Hexfix93’s Take.

June 8th, 2008 by Hexfix93

Warning: I know that a lot of people do not have sensitive ears like I do, and won’t be able to tell the differences that I complained about on here. I’m not promoting myself with these reviews, these are for my fans, thats all. If your not a fan of my music, I could care less what you think. I’m not a music magazine, I will not suck corporate cock to get free shit or promotions like all the other online bs companies do, and real magazines. Don’t like what I say, DON’T FUCKING READ IT. Everything on this site is for my fans. Thats all.

Let me just start by saying. Whoa, The Virus TI Snow is great. I never expected this. I was wowed by the virus A back in the day. The virus b and C never really wowed me like the A did. The virus A had this gritty cutting in your face sound that the B and C never had let alone the TI. The TI sounds faint, distant and lackluster on anything it does. I think its a converter issue and a power issue(my theory, let me stress its mearly my idea of why, is that when a synth tries to do to much, it has an internal bus and task switching processing it has to do, and some how this creates internal audio jitter that screws up the sound and makes it sound cold sterile and distant, I notice this with vst plug ins as well, sure there are buffers and things that are supposed to negate this, but I have pretty good fireface 800 converters, and when I convert any of my analog hardware synths to digital audio they still sound good and full, but when I use a vst or au no matter what synth, the sound is just lack luster, faint and distant sounding). The virus TI by far was the worst of the virus family. It sounded like a plug in. When I sold the Virus C I bought virus TI and was really unimpressed. It sounded worse, it had a buggy os, and there were all kinds of clicks and pops. I have owned all Virus models except the B. The regular TI sounds the worst in my book.

Now, I bought the TI snow. I thought maybe the presets were just better, so I decided to go and buy a regular TI again to see for sure. I ended up swapping the snow for the regular TI cause I got a good deal, thinking, the ti has more power and more out puts so its better right? WRONG. Same issue, the regular TI was faint, and buggy, even with the newest os update. I found some of the same patches on the snow and regular TI and compared them. The Snow is 100 times better, its loud, punchy, present, in your face, big for a digital synth. It does has a lot of bass. The snow sits better in the mix. Wait wait wait. This is only true when I play it with its own DAC. If I plug in the usb and do a AU instrument or VST, BLAH it sounds just like the crappy plug in synths I hate. So the audio over the total integration usb sounds faint and unpunchy , just like most soft synths. So, if want it to sound punchy, loud and aggressive, I run it out its main analog outputs. This is the key. Otherwise it sounds like the rest of the digital stuff I don’t like very much.

The original virus A sounded pretty good as well, but now the snow seriously sounds better than all of the viruses I have used before. It’s not just the better presets. Granted, it’s still digital so its doesn’t sound as good when you play it up high, compared to a real analog. It still has a plastic type sound to it. I love the filters, the osc, and the fx. This really is a step up from the others. The presets finally show of the power of the TI. I’m betting because the TI Snow was not stretched on processing power, it does less and has less in it, so the main output sounds better, no idea why for sure exactly, above, I’m just guessing. What can the TI snow do? Everything, pads, strings, bass, leads, arps, fx. It does them all very well. Sure I think real analog is a bit better in fatness and resonance and tone fullness, but this virus really holds its own, It is my favorite digital synth now.

Sure the snow interface is not as good as the regular virus, but honestly, if you put it in expert mode, and hit the buttons, its easy to find anything and edit it, or even make your own presets. It’s laid out very well in that regard. Sure only 4 timbers. Who cares when you can track stuff any way. That is why the regular ti is no big deal to me. The polyphony on the snow is about 32 voices on simple voices, 20 poly with a moderately complex voices, and 10 to 14 for very complex voices like if using strange filters or the grain or formant oscillators. This synth is cool, and now that it sounds a lot fuller and better tone wise on the snow, the virus really is worth owning along side real analogs. It adds all that digital stuff the analogs cannot do. This does not replace analog, just adds to it nicely.

This synth is great, it has a ton of filter types, 2 multi-mode filters (HP, LP, BP, BS) and the Analog Filter (modelled after the MiniMoog™ cascade filter with 6-24 dB Slope and self-oscillation). And awesome oscillators, WaveTable Oscillators for a completely new array of sounds. The basic idea behind the technology, is to take the existing wavetables, and apply similar techniques as those used in some granular sampling and pitch-shifting algorithms to open up a whole new world of possibilities. In each case, the Simple mode offers fewer parameters, and a higher polyphony. The characteristics of the Grain Table and Formant Table oscillators are quite different to those of traditional “granular” sampling/synthesis techniques, which tend to be associated with other-worldly “clouds” of sound. In the Virus TI Snow, they have instead employed the technology to achieve a very musical result which should prove every bit as useful as the other oscillator types in all manner of musical projects. It kicks ass. The Snow shows it off a lot more than the regular TI did. There are no buggy pops and randomly clicky envelopes like in the regular TI. The snow is a lot tighter over all. If you fidget with the presets while playing wildly, I notice notes can hang sometimes and it can take a second for the new sound to kick in with all its fx. Oh well, I don’t care about that really so it doesn’t bug me. There are still a few bugs with the SNOW, but they will be ironed out I think. The regular TI is still buggy and pops and acts stupid even after all the updates. The snow does not suffer from those anomalies.

The way you scroll through the presets is like an old roland juno or jupiter, you have a bank, then 8 sounds per bank. I like this. I can still search by sound type by holding a few buttons and getting into the options so all that is still there as well. you get 512 rom, and 512 ram sounds. That is more than enough. I hate when “ITS TOO MUCH”, when it comes to presets. The total control is cool for editing sounds and organizing stuff, but I do not like how it sounds over usb. I still love the way the virus stuff sounds being run through an old mackie mixer. Oh, and the presets are actually good on this virus. Its pretty small, easy to cary around, because it comes with its own carrying case. This is a great sound module. I give this a 5 out of 5. A must have. Its affordable. Click Here To hear the snow demo I made.

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21 Responses

  1. magenticka Says:

    That’s pretty amazing - you’re right, it does sound fat for a digital - thanks for the review and the samples!

  2. Constantine Says:

    “When I sold the Virus C I bought virus TI and was really unimpressed. It sounded worse, it had a buggy os, and there were all kinds of clicks and pops. I have owned all Virus models except the B. The regular TI sounds the worst in my book.”

    funny, i saw your TI review (which was deleted later) and i think i remember word like “it’s my favorite synth now, more that jupiter 8″, nay?)

  3. Auris Says:

    Funny stuff.
    I love your completely intellect free preview.
    Keep guessing.

  4. magenticka Says:

    …btw does it have the hyper saw as on the regular TI?

  5. Hexfix93 Says:

    Yeah, it has the hyper saw..

  6. Hexfix93 Says:

    On first impressions, i really liked the regular TI. but once i started writing with it, i realized its flaws. I waited a while after using the snow before i made my judgement. It really sits in my mixes much better.

  7. impl0dr Says:

    thanks for the review and samples. i want one! and my list of things i want gets that much bigger.

  8. Blob Says:

    Wow the TI snow sounds exactly like the Access virus TI. From what I can hear there is exactly no difference in quality between this model and the full version.

  9. SMa5317 Says:

    great review.
    any word on the new cd?

  10. SMa5317 Says:

    just in case you didnt hear.
    the battle between lithium picnic and sg is over.
    i thought youd be excited.

  11. Dziga Vertov Says:

    I find this all sort of interesting, I had expected the snow to be merely a more economic alternative to the other TI’s. Personally I’d dismissed it entirely because the interface seemed much too small, considering the menu diving involved on the other models was already a bit much for me. Still , I’ve been debating whether to buy one for a while, and will have to take a second look. I hadn’t really considered that the sound character of the snow would be different noting the (as far as I understand) identical DSP. One thing I’d like a discriminating opinion on is the oscillators, as I’ve heard they’re a bit weak, the filters on the other hand are supposedly some of the best in today’s virtual analogue dominated universe. I guess it’s all a matter of opinion but you have a lot more experience with analogue gear than I do. It seems the point of the virus is flexible sound architecture anyway, so it’s begging for disappointment to expect spot on analogue modeling. On the subject of synths I’ve always wondered why you hadn’t embraced something like the Alesis Andromeda as far as modern synthesizers. I guess if you want something analogue with modern capabilities a modular system could be much more fun anyway.
    Cheers,
    Julian

  12. Hexfix93 Says:

    The snow is not a good analog emulator. I think it’s more like a dx 7 on steroids, with limited FM. It sounds digital. I like it for the sounds that my analogs cannot make. I don’t like this synth as a analog emulator, I like it for its own sound. the interface is bad, but pretty good for being menu driven. The sound is great…

    I still like analog better. But digital has it’s place..

  13. KryoniK Messiah Says:

    Good to hear an honest review from one such as you, Bryan. Here’s hoping the new album kicks ass.

  14. Tom Says:

    Do you even know what you are doing? I own the Snow. Why would it sound “punchier” if you run the audio out it’s main outputs?? I don’t understand that comment (nor most of your review.) I run audio out of both the main outputs (thus using the Snow as my soundcard) selected as a plug in within Ableton Live. It doesn’t sound anymore “punchier” than if I use it with my Emagic external soundcard or simply play it with headphones. That comment just doesn’t make sense…. otherwise it sound digital? Waht are you talking about?

    Also, the Snow is simply a regular ti synth… just smaller. That’s it. It should sound no different than the Virus ti Indigo. For that matter, it palys the same patches, so… why would it sound different.

    Main thing is, you go by Velvet Acid Christ and appear to be a goth. I shouldn’t have read any further. You simply talk out of your *ss

  15. Hexfix93 Says:

    try running it through an analog mixer and compare, that is what i did, and yeah it was a lot more punchy than what my sound card put out via usb.

    Um why not ask nice instead of being a total ass face about it?

  16. Diogene Says:

    The Snow sounds intresting , i saw the demo at Namm 2008 this year and was pretty impressed with it’s soundset. It’s pretty cheap here in the UK also and i’m thinking of getting one myself.

    Always intresting to read your reviews

    Oh by the way the MP3 and your demo was really good !

  17. Tom Says:

    I apologize for my crappy remarks. Different ears hear different things.

    Again, my apologies.

  18. Matthew James Says:

    On a relevant point, you would probably enjoy this

  19. Matthew James Says:

    here you go

    http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c392173f1f4a0117414407bc0154

  20. KryoniK Messiah Says:

    Piss off, Tom. You have no place to say someone like Bryan here has no idea what he is doing. One of you has published many meaningful pieces of music, the other is a faceless nobody. That’s you =)

  21. g-64 Says:

    first of all hi!

    i am the owner of virus b and c and i can say that many patches edited with the same params sound different on both.
    so, regarding this ti fever (which by the way i was cought into myself) made me searching reviews about ti and the ti snow.
    i own also a uQ which imho sounds far better than virus and more analog like (if programmed properly), but the virus has its own specific sound which i can hear against the other (i even recognize the modified presets in some songs - many by the way).
    so, you say that the snow worth investing in…here it will cost me with all the taxes about 1150eur - new…so it is a lot of money to buy it. i have considered also the blofeld but i cannot get used with its sound and the way it is operated….i’m “virusated”.

    i am ending this comment saying that, after reading your article i will buy the snow (not that “snow” :-) ) and try to do some work! hope it will worth the investment.

    keep it ACID and best regards from romania!

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